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Thread: It thinks the key is in ignition, won't start - HELP!!

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    Default It thinks the key is in ignition, won't start - HELP!!

    After driving home and parking tonight, my '95 525i wouldn't turn off by turning the key back, nor could I get the key out of the ignition. The engine finally turned off after some fidgeting, but it took a while longer before I got the key out. But the radio and auxiliary power still didn't turn off and when I opened the door I got the "Key in Ignition" warning - what's going on???

    A friend helped reset the oil timer by grounding pin 7 a few weeks ago and since then the "open door" chime speaker occasionally shorts out, but I'm not sure if these are related to the ignition problem.......

    The worst problem is that I can't start the car again either. There most be something wrong with the key circuitry because there's no change in auxiliary power (it's always on) and the starter never turns no matter where the key is turned to.

    Please help!!

    I'm going to disconnect the battery now to see if that makes any difference........

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    I've since calmed down a bit and found some helpful threads in the archive. I think I'll try getting some graphite (pencil lead) in there to see if that helps, and maybe removing the ignition barrel.

    Sorry, I should have searched the archives first, but I need my car to start!!!

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    fidget with it, turn the steering wheel, push the gear selector around, fiddle

    I had this prob 2 times, then I removed all extra keys off the ring and just use a single key...no probs since.
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    also twist the key in the ignition while moving the steering wheel to release the safety switch.
    95 E34 530I V2.17
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    Or... you can be like me... and have a push button start....

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    The lock cylinder just will NOT come out! Got the wire in a little less than an inch, sprayed silicone spray, pushing real hard.

    Hitching a ride to work, in search of locksmith's graphite spray......

    Any other advice???

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    Default The key has to be at 60 as shown and you have to shove the

    allen wrench or wire that your using in at a slight angle, not straight in.. and it takes some force, it doesn't push easily... not a lot of force but some.





    Quote Originally Posted by ChefJRD
    The lock cylinder just will NOT come out! Got the wire in a little less than an inch, sprayed silicone spray, pushing real hard.

    Hitching a ride to work, in search of locksmith's graphite spray......

    Any other advice???

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    Default Does this come off? (pic)

    Do I need to remove this cover to extract the lock cylinder? I'm inserting the allen key at about a 20-degree angle (angled towards the center of cylinder) about an inch and pushing real hard, but it still isn't coming out. Wondering if I've removed all I need to. (there should be a picture attached....)

    Assuming I eventually get the cylinder out, will I be able to start the car with a screwdriver until I get a new keyed cylinder?

    Thanks again for all the help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChefJRD
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    Assuming I eventually get the cylinder out, will I be able to start the car with a screwdriver until I get a new keyed cylinder?....
    Yes / No... a 95 will have EWS... ie the key has a microchip, you should be able to stick the key and and then turn over the car with a screw driver, however....

    You still got to deal with the steering wheel lock and if she is an auto the tranny lock.

    edit:after looking it looks like they are still working correct if you can turn the part after you pull it out... not sure on that however...

    Charles
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