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    i got my tis working sunday, ill go check.
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    Default Thanks a lot Ryan

    Javier

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    240290000 is listed as the oil pump article....

    the problem with the number that you are giving me is that that is the number on top of the bulletin, not the one that can be searched for in the tis...ie, you gave me a 10 digit number....these are listed as 9 digit numbers for search. a tis expert like bill r could probably find them, however i can't. i looked manually for the emissions testing one, since that seems like it would reinforce the point to your mechanic, i can't find it. i'll post the thing about the oil pump, but i don't think it has to do with a regular a clutch/rev in neutral problem.
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    Default I see, is there, by chance, the possibility that ...

    this bug was fixed from some production year, my car is early 92, may be it is out of the problem range.

    In this case, I wouldn't mind.

    The emission test TIS has this content:

    June 1991
    Service Bulletin 24 01 91 (3196)

    Subject: Transmisison Failure during Exhaust Emission Testing

    Models: All 1984, 1985, 1986 with 4-speed automatic transmission, 1987
    635CSi, 735i, and L7.

    Situation: There have been reported isolated cases of automatic
    transmissions failing during a High Idle Exhaust Emissions Check. The
    failures have resulted from a preconditioning procedure where the engine is
    held at high rpm for a prolonged period of time. The following applies to
    all states which have a High Idle Exhaust Emission Check.

    As the internal transmission components experience normal wear over time,
    the possibility of transmission damage exists if the vehicle is operated
    for
    extended periods of time at high rpm in PARK or Neutral. Such operation
    does not constitute normal operating conditions. If, in exceptional cases
    such as A/C recharging, injector cleaning, charging system tests, or
    emissions testing, vehicle operation at high rpm in PARK or Neutral is
    required the following setup procedure must be performed prior to beginning
    such operations.

    Solution: The emissions test must be conducted with the engine at
    operating
    temperature. If the engine is not at operating temperature prior to
    beginning the test, it is recommended that the vehicle be driven for a
    short
    period of time to bring the engine to operating temperature. DO NOT run
    the
    vehicle at high idle to achieve operating temperature.

    Once the engine has reached operating temperature, the following pretest
    procedure must be performed BEFORE testing begins.

    Setup Procedure for I/M Emission Test

    1. Shift to PARK.
    2. Turn engine OFF.
    3. Wait at least 30 seconds.
    4. Restart engine, LEAVE TRANSMISSION IN PARK.
    After the engine is started, DO NOT move the gear shift selector through
    the
    Forward or Reverse gears before or during the test sequence. DO NOT EXCEED
    2000 RPM.
    5. Begin emissions test procedure.
    6. If the vehicle fails the emission test, some states allow for an
    extended pre-conditioning before the repeat test. In this case the
    following procedure should be adhered to.

    Precondition Procedure

    1. Shift into PARK and turn the engine OFF for 30 seconds.
    2. Restart engine, LEAVE TRANSMISSION IN PARK.
    3. Engine may be preconditioned at a maximum of 2000 RPM for up to 90
    seconds, at which time the repeat test must begin.

    If the above steps are not followed, serious transmission damage can
    result.

    Note: Due to the unusual nature of the emissions check, this type of
    failure does not take place under normal operating conditions.


    You can see there that BMW did not consider a solution for this, and also located the fault for models from 1984 to 1987!!! There wasn't even E34's at that time!!

    From Winfred post on the two repairs, it is clear that the correction is based in two Teflon seals, replacing steel seals. If there is something about this in the Oil pump TIS, then it is worthy, otherwise, as you think, may not be related.

    Javier

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    "..Torchinski v. Peterson that it is legal to carry a concealed weapon, so long the weapon is totally slick like a huge ass machine gun that you carry under a trench coat, like in the Matrix."


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    as has probably been said before, the 4hp22 and hp22eh had this problem, and all the m20 and m30 e34s were equipped with this,.....methinks that bmw's solution if a car came in with this problem was to completely overhaul the tranny and that's why there might not be a partial rebuild datasheet to solve the problem.
    "..Torchinski v. Peterson that it is legal to carry a concealed weapon, so long the weapon is totally slick like a huge ass machine gun that you carry under a trench coat, like in the Matrix."


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    Default So you think mine is goning to need the ...

    correcting seals. I will burn a CD with all the info gather on this post and take it to the shop with the car. As the shop will have to disassemble up to D break, think it is time to replace the ofending seals to the A clutch.

    Javier

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