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cae660
11-30-2006, 11:03 AM
Hi everybody,i replace my engine m30b34 with m30b28.The m30b28 is from a e28.When i replace the engine,i change the oil filter canister and the oil pump between them.It is posibble to lose oil presure because of this? My car was 735i/e32. PLease excuse my english.
shogun
11-30-2006, 08:46 PM
The M30B35 engine has 3.500 cc while the one from the E28 has 2.800 cc or so.
Maybe the oil pump is smaller, but not sure.
Compare the part numbers of both engine pumps here
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do?PHPSESSID=2f576ced29477680ec938848d4d39e a1
cae660
12-01-2006, 10:31 AM
Thank you verry much.
cae660
12-01-2006, 12:39 PM
The oil pumps are diferent,but i think the problem is the oil filter canister.If someone knows something about this,please help me.Thank you.
shogun
12-01-2006, 10:43 PM
For the oil filter canister you can use any and install it where you have space.
Important is that the canister has a ball valve which keeps the oil in the canister when engine is switchted off. This is important that immy on starting you have oil available which is then pushed onto the camshaft, otherwise it takes a long time to get the oil from the oil pump to the cylinder head.
Here it is explained, link from my website
http://www.e32fixes.com/results.asp?method=show_fix&fixid=5
cae660
12-02-2006, 02:42 AM
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From what you told me i undrestand that the shape of the oil filter canister dosent matter in this case... i must see if that valve is ok... Thank you again mister Shogun.
cae660
12-02-2006, 02:45 AM
From what you told me i undrestand that the shape of the oil filter canister dosent matter in this case... i must see if that valve is ok... Thank you again mister Shogun.[/QUOTE]
cae660
12-02-2006, 02:46 AM
From what you told me i undrestand that the shape of the oil filter canister dosent matter in this case... i must see if that valve is ok... Thank you again mister Shogun.
cae660
12-02-2006, 02:52 AM
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From what you told me i undrestand that the shape of the oil filter canister dosent matter in this case... i must see if that valve is ok... Thank you again mister Shogun.
CharlesAFerg
12-05-2006, 07:56 PM
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cae660
12-06-2006, 11:17 AM
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cae660
12-07-2006, 11:30 AM
Tomorow is THE BIG DAY..... i hope is that valve....
cae660
12-08-2006, 08:45 AM
Hi,today i faund where was the problem,after i take out the oil filter,and gues what..... there was no oil... so, i think is becose of that ball valve.. Thank you,mister Sogun.
cae660
12-10-2006, 03:06 PM
Hellow,all i want to say is:NEVER instal an angine like m30b28 on the e32;the block engine is difrent,and you will never have oil preasure, because you must put the oil canister from m30b30/35... and i think these are no compatible.Please excuse my engish
cae660
12-12-2006, 03:48 PM
Hi,this is what i find:What fits in a M30 powered e32: The only direct fit into a 735i is an M30 3.0 or 3.5 out of an E32 or E34. The earlier model M30s will not fit as the oil canister points downwards where the e32 has its engine mount bracket. Even if you swap the oil canister it won't. You will not get any oil pressure from the new style canister on the old block. Another difference between the engines is the oil pan, the oil pump and the oil-level sender.

You can replace it with another engine that was a factory fit for the E32 like the M60 v8 or the M70 v12. But be prepared to do lots and lots of work. For example the I6, v8 and v12 all have different locations for the brake booster and the ABS pump. When "upgrading" to a v8 or v12 you also need the gearbox and the final drive. So it's cheaper to part out your car and buy a v8 or v12 powered E32.

The S38 (3.6 and 3.8) out of the E34 M5 should be a direct fit into the engine bay as it's based on the M30. But you still have some minor problems to work out as the air intake system is on the left side of the engine. There are some people on the net who have installed this engine successfully. They usually take along the manual gearbox for performance reasons.

All M30 based Alpina/Hartge/Schnitzer engines will fit. But just try to get your hands on one for a reasonable amount of money. And then it still has to be complete. Alpina for example won't sell any parts unless you can prove you own a car that uses them.

So ,if someone have a solution for me,please help me..
cae660
12-13-2006, 07:26 AM
There is nobody who know's something obout this? or have a solution for this
shogun
12-13-2006, 08:26 AM
I still do not understand your problem completely.
Please explain once more.
You installed in an E32 with original M30B35 engine an older M30 engine which was used in E23, E23, E28? So the generation before?
Not only the engine is different, but also the engine electronics.

Sell the engine and buy a cheap used M30B35 engine from an E34 or E32.
http://www.e31.net/enginechassis.html#E28
cae660
12-13-2006, 04:35 PM
Yes,i installed in an E32 with original M30B35 engine an older M30 engine wich was used on an e28.(the M30B28 engine was L-jetronic,but i changed the injection(everything) and i transforme that in motronic... all the parts was from my M30B35 engine;So ,now my M30B28 engine have motronic injection.The M30B28 engine didn't fit on e32 whit the original oil pan, oil pump and oil filter canister;becouse of that, i install (the oil pan,pump,etc) from the M30B35 engine.Since than, when i start the( M30B28) engine i hear a noice for few seconds.So i have chec that valve from the oil canister,and i saw there is no oil in the canister...(so i understand that the valve is not ok); but now i'm thinking al these problem is becouse of this mM30 engine(older version)plus i read that...about(what you can install on an e32...etc)
cae660
12-13-2006, 04:44 PM
there is no solution for that problem? actually i want to keep this engine... Thank you very much. I have one friend who told me that you are from Germany and you leave in Tokio? is this true? :) (the world is small) .I'm from Romania...
rob101
12-13-2006, 04:45 PM
I am sure that the m30b28 doesn't have a ball valve as the oil can't drain out because the canister for the filter is the other way to the later engines. And I can confirm that when you change the oil its FULL OF OIL. Its a serious pain in the arse.
genphreak
12-17-2006, 02:19 AM
You need a remote setup like this one
http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/trouble/Data/remote2.jpg

from http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/trouble/OilCanister.htm
cae660
12-17-2006, 04:35 AM
Are you sure that will work on my M30B28engine(do not forget that is an older version of M30 engine)? Thank you.
cae660
12-19-2006, 12:39 PM
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cae660
12-19-2006, 12:40 PM
I realy want to keep that engine...
cae660
12-27-2006, 03:03 PM
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shogun
12-27-2006, 10:36 PM
ask on this board, especially "kff" is very experienced
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/e28/
cae660
12-28-2006, 10:35 AM
Thank you.